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JSR #185
Java^TM Technology for the Wireless Industry
Item Exception Ballot
Ballot duration: 2006-01-10 to: 2006-01-17

Special Vote Instructions:

Do you approve to include the following change in a maintenance release of JSR-185: 'Allow the JTWI Security Policy (defined in JTWI Specification, Chapter 7) to be revised and/or superseded in new JCP platform JSRs such as JSR 248'?

These are the final results of the Item Exception Ballot for JSR #185. The Executive Committee for ME has not approved this ballot.

Votes

Ericsson AB

IBM

Intel Corp.

Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.

Motorola

Nokia Corporation

NTT DoCoMo, Inc.

Orange France SA

Philips Electronics UK Ltd

Research In Motion, LTD (RIM)

Samsung Electronics Corporation

Siemens AG

Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB

Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Symbian Ltd

Vodafone Group Services Limited

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On 2006-01-11 Sun Microsystems, Inc. voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-11 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB voted No with the following comment:
As the proposed change is not backwards compatible this change needs to be deferred to a major version of the JSR or covered in a new future platfom JSR such as JSR-248 (Mobile Service Architecture)
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On 2006-01-13 Nokia Corporation voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-15 Ericsson AB voted No with the following comment:
Based on the amount of discussion on the proposed change in the EC mailing list, we feel that this needs the Expert Group to be consulted since the proposed change is not backwards compatible. 
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On 2006-01-15 NTT DoCoMo, Inc. voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-15 Intel Corp. voted No with the following comment:
Taken literally, this change is unnecessary and confusing since there is nothing to prevent EGs of new platform JSR from specifying in their specifications whatever they want to specify.  If the intent is to allow implementations of such new specifications to claim conformance with JTWI while ignoring one of its major requirements, then in our view, this is clearly too substantial to be considered a Minor Revision, which is the only type of revision allowed under JCP 2.6 without a new JSR.  So this change is either unnecessary or outside the scope of a Maintenance change.  In addition, the Maintenance Lead failed to provide an adequate Change Log in time to allow full review and consideration of this proposed change.
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On 2006-01-16 Orange France SA voted Yes with the following comment:
First point: the proposed MR fixes a long standing issue with JSR 185, some companies could not adopt JTWI only because of security policy lack of flexibility. 

Second point: Orange considers MSA EG has the mandate to define MIDP security policy requirements for the mobile industry, as JTWI EG had; gathering a new EG for a new major version of JTWI is: not required and mandate duplication. Orange believes JTWI security policy requirement was too strict. The MR, by enabling other EG to agree on new security policy requirements (potentially different), is correcting another important issue with JTWI. 
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On 2006-01-16 Symbian Ltd voted No with the following comment:
While it may have seemed like a good idea to do a quick fix on JTWI these changes do have ramifications beyond the scope of a maintenance review as Sony Ericsson has articulated. Also the way in which these changes were introduced did not give enough time to fully consider the impact on our own development and that of our customers.
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On 2006-01-16 Siemens AG voted No with the following comment:
On the given information Siemens does not approve this item exception ballot for JSR 185. We second Intel's comments that the natures of the changes are more substantial than a minor revision.
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On 2006-01-16 IBM voted No with the following comment:
IBM sees a strong requirement to maintain backward compatibility between JSRs.  The issue is sufficiently important that it be referred to the expert group, rather than handled in a maintenance review.
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On 2006-01-16 Philips Electronics UK Ltd voted No with the following comment:
This change is excessive for a maintenance review.
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On 2006-01-16 Samsung Electronics Corporation voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-17 Vodafone Group Services Limited voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-17 Motorola voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-17 Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2006-01-17 Research In Motion, LTD (RIM) voted Yes with the following comment:
While we have a reservation over the way it is being handled, we also recognize that this is among the issues that the community urges to be resolved.
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